Bevendre

4. Favorite video game character: A hard question to answer, but one of my favorite characters is probably Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite in part because of how she carries herself and because she’s not just a helpless partner.

6.  Favorite genre:  Probably RPGs.  Even if I don’t finish them, managing inventory, building a character up from scratch and the story aspects have always been favorite aspects for me.

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I love the design, but I always favor the other two, especially in ORAS.  Their respective Megas really seal the deal, with Mega Blaziken accentuating it’s already broken attack and giving it extra speed which was it’s biggest issue, Mega Swampert becoming a hulking tank of meat and mud that, in rain, is a monster, and Mega Sceptile getting boosts that only serve to accentuate the strengths that it has but is ill equipped to use, a typing that largely serves to add more weaknesses instead of resistances, and an ability that does nothing to help it at all.

The Treecko line is the least potent of the Hoenn starters, and that is only made more apparent by its Mega which could have been wildly more effective with simple changes.  That’s why I think that Gamefreak hates Treecko.

They do, and Treecko’s line is usable in the main game, I’ll never say it’s not.  The problem with the Treecko line is that its base stats do not lend themselves well to the movepool that it has, and vice versa.  It is workable, but it will never be outstanding and stands in the shadow of the other two Hoenn starters because of it.

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I feel that the Treecko line is usable just running through the game, but outside of moving from gym to gym, they’re like a soccer player who has never heard of leg day.

Hey, don’t be hatin on treecko.

I’ve said it before, aesthetically the Treecko line is fine.  Their movepool does not fit their stats though, and it hasn’t since Gen IV.

Who cares about stats?

Many people, especially when the stats determine how much damage you can take and deal out.  Treecko’s line has terrible defenses so it cannot take a hit well.  It has poor attack, so it cannot do damage efficiently with most of its movepool, but it has great speed and special attack.  Unfortunately it has few options that take advantage of what it is made to do.

Competitively it’s terrible, but it still has a good design.  Even just going through the game there are better grass types with access to better attacks and the means to use them well.

As for me, IDGAF. It’s not how you train the pokemon, it’s how you use it.

That’s the problem though, it’s not about training the Treecko line, it’s about how they are set up to be used.  Treecko and its evolution have high speed and special attack but low defenses.  Effectively they’re lizard mages in an rpg.  The problem with that is that instead of spells and techniques that take advantage of what they’re best at they’re given knives that they can’t use nearly as well as a lot of others.

The Treecko line are mages told to attack with sticks instead of spells and that hurts them a lot.

For people who think that’s the right way. When it’s not. I use the treecko line in the right way. I try to keep it balanced and work on what attacks could help it. Like giga drain.

Giga Drain’s a good move, but better suited to something with more bulk and longevity, neither or which Treecko or its line have.  It’s also a relatively low-powered attack, but admittedly one that does benefit from the line’s superior special attack.  You know what doesn’t though?  It’s signature move of Leaf Blade, or X-Scissor, Earthquake, Return, or 75% of the moves that it can learn.  The bulk of the moves that they can learn are physical, and their physical attack is not high enough to take advantage of.  The bulk of the special moves that the Treecko line can learn are grass type, and many of those are draining moves which are nice but don’t lend themselves well to the line in general.

Like I said earlier, the Treecko line is not built in a way that favors the options that it has access to.  It is usable going from one gym to the next, but outside of straight progression there are much better grass types.

Why do you think he has sharp leaves on it’s arms? It’s based on physical attack.

When Treecko’s line first came out in Generation III all grass attacks were special based, including Leaf Blade.  At that time Treecko and its evolutions were good.  In Generation IV however the physical/special split happened making some grass moves based off of physical attack, and some special.  Almost all of the moves that Treecko and its line have access to became physical after this point.

Treecko’s line has always had subpar physical attack, but above average special attack.  It has not been able to take advantage of its base stats in 3 generations because the bulk of its movepool is physical.  Despite getting new options every generation the problems that came to be in gen IV HAVE NOT CHANGED.