Bevendre

jitterbugjive:

Okay but don’t sit there blaming lazy people when people are being forced to be lazy because the system can and will throw them out on the street if they so much as attempt to have a decent living

It’s not a fucking way to live, the housing sucks, the areas to live are unsafe, there’s a risk of being homeless around every corner if you fuck up. People “taking advantage”? Of course they’re taking advantage of it because NO ONE CAN GET A GOD DAMN JOB. How ELSE are they going to live?

It’s a system that keeps the poor as poor and miserable, they don’t GET to rise up to middle class.

If everyone had their basic needs met, then they would stop feeling trapped. People could actually spend on the economy rather than struggling by and buying only the things they absolutely need on the government’s money.

I always love it when people use the excuse of “America’s too big for the changes other countries have made to work!” to explain why nothing is getting done and things are getting worse in the U.S. while the same problems are worked on, and in many cases solved abroad.  

Yes, the U.S. is physically larger than many other countries.  Yes, the U.S. is more populous than many other countries.  You know what else the U.S. is?  Despite the high national debt, the U.S. is more wealthy and productive than many other countries and has a higher GDP and ‘average’ income than many other countries.  The funding for the fixes that have worked for other nations is there, it’s just not going to move, and that’s because it’s all centralized in a very small group.

The economic system is borked at the moment, with the U.S. having the worst wage disparity since the 1920s when labor laws were JUST coming into play and conditions in U.S. factories could make modern sweatshops overseas seem bearable.  They political system is borked right now, with one of if not THE least productive Congresses in history that struggles to pass a budget let alone actually help the nation.  Why?  Because many congress members care more for their own benefit than those of the constituents that put them in place, and make choices and votes that aide corporations more often than those that actually need help.

Yes, there are some people who take advantage of social services and welfare, but if you spend more than 5 minutes talking to ANYONE who actually works with people on assisted living, instead of someone who sounds like they came from FOX news and you’ll realize that the amount of people taking advantage of the system are few and far in between, and that the people taking advantage of the political system for their own gain in the economy are actually fairly prominent, and doing a lot more harm.

Don’t blame the people who are doing all that they can to get by and have to rely upon a system that stigmatizes them in the eyes of others.  Don’t blame the people who actually work day in and day out to provide the bare necessities to their families through a system that continuously seems to beat them down and work against them.  

Blame those at the top, those who have influence over the system itself and more often work to further destabilize it than to strengthen it for their own gain, be it fiscal or political.

I like your idea of a date.  How does 7-ish sound?

Potentially.  It depends on what you’re like.  I’m demisexual, the physical doesn’t really sway things for me.  It’s the personality, thoughts and likes that affect me, though I suppose that’s what the dating is for.

So, I was thinking dinner, maybe a movie?

jitterbugjive:

So you’ve resorted to changing topics to another shitty topic rather than keeping to the original debate

Nice evasive tactic there

The entire purpose of establishing a government and society is to allow individuals to receive their basic needs and the protection that is found in a group.  Following that, having the government, especially one that was formed ‘by the people, for the people’ provide the basics for its people so that they can thrive on their own is a given.  Sadly it’s a given that is blasphemous to some, like kaiuchiha15.

Newsflash, a vast majority of taxes in America go towards defense spending, an amount that is rather controversial given the state of the country and its international relations and policies.  That spending is covered by taxes from the American people whether they want it to be or not.  They are forced to pay for the defense of a country that has not been attacked by a foreign country for more than 70 years, but has entered and engaged in multiple foreign conflicts.

Why is it so hard to think that maybe a part of what goes into that could be relocated into providing for the people of the country itself?  Why is it so difficult to believe that people could do more and work harder if they are properly housed and fed without worrying about when their next meal is or whether they’ll have enough to manage both rent and food?